It wasn't at all uncommon for an Ubykh quoted sentence to be followed by the phrase «…» q’en ınq’eq’e, very literally, '(s)he said it to him/her, saying, «…».'Īnd FWIW, in modern Australian English (my native dialect) I've also noticed similarly that people often quote speech in the same way: 'I said to him, I said, «…».'Īpril 25, 12:49 sez to 'im I sez … is standard music-hall patter. Weirdly, this very pattern is frequent in Ubykh, which was also latterly spoken in Turkey before its extinction in 1992. My understanding is that Turkish 'diye' is morphologically a gerund, but idiomatically it is used to render purposive clauses or also direct quotations.Īpril 25, 12:30 it's like the KJV? 'And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, …' Unless things have changed in recent years, there is no stereotypical turkey sound in Hebrew, nor dove sounds, though there are verbs for them. Interesting note about 'gobble' referring to gulping greedily and the sound a turkey makes: Needless to say, there are lots of gaps.ĭogs go 'hav-hav / how-how' in Hebrew. Some of the animals are recorded as making separate sounds for different meanings (e.g., there are 10 different sounds listed for dogs) and some are distinguished between the sounds made by the male and the female of the species (e.g., the turkey). It has 58 animal sounds as made in 17 languages. Here is what claims to be 'the world's biggest multilingual list' of sounds that animals make: I clicked on the link that E kindly provided for Hebrew, but there were only 16 animals listed, and the turkey was not among them. Some speakers of Arabic call the turkey Abyssinian (habash), and others call it 'Rumi' (Roman = Byzantine (Eastern Roman) = Anatolian = Turkish). Hebrew has “Indian chicken” for turkey as well, but I think Arabic has Abyssinian/Ethiopian chicken? Are there any other languages besides Portuguese and English that have gone for Peru and Turkey?Īll the other Innovative Language Learning languages had the same list… French dinde), often more specifically to Calicut (Lithuanian kalakutas, Dutch kalkoen). Quite a number of languages attribute the turkey to India (e.g. 'Diye' is also used in an extended sense to indicate intention, as in 'Seni göreyim diye geldim', which means 'I came to see you' but more literally translates as 'Saying 'Let me see you', I came'. The Turkish word for 'turkey' (hindi) means 'Indian'. 'diye' is short form of 'diyerek', which is the present participle of 'demek' (to say). In Portuguese, the word for that bird is 'peru'. What I really want to know is whether the Turkish work for 'turkey' points to another country. e is a gerund suffix it also appears in, for example 'göre,' literally 'seeing,' used in the phrase 'X duyduğuna göre,' 'according to what X said'.Īpril 24, 11:53 so it's like the KJV? 'And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, …' 'Diye' is a form of 'demek,' 'to say.' 'Bağırmak,' meanwhile, is 'to call, yell, shout, make a noise.' The phrase 'X diye bağrır' is best rendered as 'saying X, it calls.'

I find hard to define 'diye', though I think that it means something like 'thus' in this construction. Note that the construction for quoting animal noises in English is to precede the animal noises with 'they go', while the Turkish animal noises are followed by the quotative verb, which is usually preceded by the word 'diye'. Turkeys gobble they go, 'Gobble, gobble.' Hindiler guruldar 'glu glu' diye bağırırlar.

Turkey noise